Friday, October 4, 2019

Guide Ticketed For Hunting Without A License, Improper Firearm

2019-2020 Canada Goose Season MapDepartment of Environmental Conservation Environmental Conservation Officer (ECO) Jennifer Okonuk reported that on September 21, she encountered several migratory bird hunters in Northern Franklin County during the early goose and youth waterfowl hunting seasons.

ECO Okonuk said one group of hunters from Maine was guided by a licensed guide outfitter, but three of the hunters failed to have their required New York Harvest Information Program (HIP) number. The licensed guide also failed to possess a valid hunting license, she said. None of the hunters had their guns plugged as required, and the guns were all capable of holding more than three shells according to ECO Okonuk.

ECO Okonuk reported that she educated the hunters on the early goose regulations. One hunter was issued a ticket for failure to carry a HIP number, two hunters were issued tickets for failure to have a HIP number, and the guide was issued two tickets, one for hunting small game without a license and one for possessing a shotgun capable of holding more than three rounds.

Illustration: 2019-2020 Canada Goose Season Map.

 

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11 Responses

  1. Richard Cummings says:

    Guns do not need to be plugged during early goose season! ECO Okonuk should know that, shouldn’t she? Bad ticket. How can you trust the rest of the tickets are valid? What a disaster

    “During the September season hunters are allowed to use electronic calling devices and to use shotguns capable of holding more than three shells at a time, but no more than seven.”

    • John Warren John Warren says:

      “No person shall take migratory game birds:… With a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a one-piece filler that is incapable of removal without disassembling the gun. This does not apply to the taking of Canada geese during September or snow geese in any area or zone, when all other waterfowl seasons are closed; however, during these seasons a semi-automatic shotgun capable of carrying more than 6 shells at one time may not be used.”

  2. Augie passante says:

    Obviously these fellas were in the wrong, but I just checked the dec regs and during the Sept early goose season you are allowed the use of unplugged guns….. it was a change that went into effect a few years back due to over abundance of local geese (which are the target of the early seasons)…… if this report is correct then this officer needs to be disciplined as an example…… the dec DEMANDS hunters obide by there complicated regs then the dec officers should also know those regs…….. I’ve had many run ins with trout troopers whom I had to show waterfowl regs to in the reg book because they were blissfully unaware of the law…… the 500 foot rule while waterfowl hunting over water is a notorious head scratcher among our ticket writing breathren…..

    • John Warren John Warren says:

      “No person shall take migratory game birds:… With a shotgun capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a one-piece filler that is incapable of removal without disassembling the gun. This does not apply to the taking of Canada geese during September or snow geese in any area or zone, when all other waterfowl seasons are closed; however, during these seasons a semi-automatic shotgun capable of carrying more than 6 shells at one time may not be used.”

  3. Kathy says:

    Where does,it say they were ticketed for unplugged guns? Not having the documentation # is what I read…and the ?3 shell rule.

    • Boreas says:

      Kathy,

      I believe what they are saying is that in regular season, guns with over a 3-shot magazine capacity need to be plugged. So being ticketed for the guns able to hold more than 3 shells is the same as being ticketed for “unplugged” guns. Two ways of saying the same thing.

      • Kathy says:

        Thank you …
        The guide was the only one one ticketed for that but the others for paper…and the guide had no license so the tickets don’t seem that unreasonable

  4. Dale Jeffers says:

    Any one care to speculate as to the reason that the identity of the guide was withheld?

    • Joe Hansen says:

      Local shaming for a guide who makes money off NY wildlife and doesn’t follow the rules sounds fair to me.

    • Boreas says:

      Dale,

      A common question. DEC, while tough on offenders, typically goes easy on the sportsman community by not listing their names. I guess only DEC can answer your question.

      • Dan says:

        Forest Ranger and ECO reports rarely name the culprits, unless it’s such a big violation(s) that turns into a major news story. As for the regs, it is the hunter’s responsibility to know them, including having a license and HIP#. On the other side of the coin, I recently attended DEC’s waterfowl ID class and heard many stories of law enforcement not being up on waterfowl regs and even duck ID. Some, to the point where charges were dropped.

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