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  1. Bill says:

    The NPCR article is a hit piece on Stefanik. Pubs like NPCR never mention how the only violent death that day in DC was a capitol police officer who gave no warning and shot and killed Ashley Babbitt, a veteran, unarmed, point blank and got off scot-free.

    They used the Capitol opener to start the hit on her stance on election fraud.

    If we want to minimize fraud, why do we have internet-connected voting machines? Not for speed. Paper ballot counts yielded results the day after the election in our old reality and were easily subjected to overwatch. Everything is hidden in the electronics now.

    Also note that NPCR does not allow comments **which is always a propaganda publication tell**. Thank you AE for your openness and high quality.

    • Balian the Cat says:

      Ashley Babbit was a domestic terrorist who died doing what she loved. Five capitol police officers died defending democracy as a direct result of the violence that day. Four others died in or around the crowd. No amount of lying about these things makes them untrue.

      • Dana says:

        “Gave no warning.”??? I can’t believe this BS. Incredible. Several guns were pointed at her as she fought to enter the chamber. Warned or not, she was no innocent victim. Shame the National Guard wasn’t present. Wonder why?

        • Bill says:

          https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/videos-show-fatal-police-shooting-of-woman-during-capitol-riot-99171397641

          Here is a link to the video of the shooting on NBC. As I said in a response above, she acted stupidly. I do not see a warning shot or hear a verbal warning from the cop or see a second gun on the other side of the glass..she did get warning from people shouting “gun’, had a few seconds to get down, but it looks like a crowd trapping her in place. Two shots, one at her, both from Michael Byrd, seconds apart. One gun. We cannot say if she saw the gun.

          Perhaps if *some* of the Capital Police had not opened the gates and motioned people in, things would be different. Doubt me? Happy to link you if need help finding those videos. You might say, if Trump had not invited people…that is true too.

          An aside – I’m old enough to remember when you could just walk in and stare up at the Rotunda, wander in and watch the House in session, if there were public seats left.

          • Bill says:

            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/capitol-riot-deaths/
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/04/07/dc-medical-examiner-reveals-causes-of-capitol-insurrection-deaths-except-for-officer-brian-sicknick/?sh=673a50bb4100

            Other sites are in agreement. The Forbes article is a little old and Sicknick’s CoD had not been released. Only Babbitt was shot. 4 (four) officers died then or since. The officers died, according to the articles, of natural causes. Please LINK US to the information that makes you accuse me of lying, and I will consider it, unless you speak from Top Secret knowledge and are forbidden. As for Babbitt, she committed stupidity and paid the price, there is no record of her being a terrorist, it’s your label for her actions.

          • Dana says:

            Well again, she wasn’t standing on the street reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and was unwillingly swept inside by a violent mob – through flash-bang explosives, through toxic spray, through police barricades, through smashed-in doorways, through the trashed halls, and ended up at the front of the mob trying to get through the smashed glass of a barricaded door without some sense that she was doing something dangerous and reckless and she may be in danger. She ignored her “warning” when storming past the first police barricade outside.

            Insurrections are ugly and dangerous. Making martyrs out of these insurrectionists either singly or as a whole, is repugnant to me. But you are free to disagree. Apparently, our representative disagrees as well. She is threading a tiny needle with her rhetoric that many of her constituents find nothing more than self-serving, and not in their best interest.

            • ADKresident says:

              Dana, I just read Joy Reid’s position at MSNBC will be open in the Spring. You’d make a great candidate as her replacement- maybe even save the show!

            • JohnL says:

              Violent crime is ugly and serious too. We shouldn’t make martyrs of dangerous felons that were resisting legitimate arrests by police either. Your thoughts on that Dana.

              • Dana says:

                Were they inside the goddamn rotunda with congress in session, threatening our election process? Give me a break – what an idiotic false equivalent!

                • JohnL says:

                  Never said it was equivalent to anything Dana. Just made a comparison to other events of a similar nature in dozens of cities nationwide that destroyed billions (with a B) of dollars of personal property, killed dozens of innocent people, burned federal buildings, and shut down businesses/government agencies. These events, by the way, were much more threatening to our country than the January 6th ‘insurrection. IMHO, that is.
                  Having said all that, what did I think of January 6. I was appalled and embarrassed at what happened that day by people on ‘my’ side of the political aisle. It was (is) a stain on our history that should never have happened. Do I think it was an ‘insurrection’? Absolutely not. It was a demonstration that went horribly wrong. If nothing else, insurrections always involve firearms, none of which were found on the ‘demonstrators’, either inside or outside the building.

        • JohnL says:

          By your reasoing Dana, I guess the same could be said about Jacob Blake, Daunte Rice, and the others that were shot by police last year too. That they were warned I mean. Yet, I’ll bet you approved (or at least didn’t disapprove) of all the rioting that occurred after their incidents. I could be wrong I suppose.

  2. Bill says:

    Excuse me. “AA”

  3. Balian the Cat says:

    Bill – You’re response is reasonable and reasoned. I retract my reference to you as a liar and I accept the notion that I used the term terrorist as a description of her actions.

  4. Charlie Stehlin says:

    “Paper ballot counts yielded results the day after the election in our old reality and were easily subjected to overwatch. Everything is hidden in the electronics now.”

    > You are most certainly right about this Bill. When this first started brewing so many of us ‘awake’ folk just knew this smelled like rotten fish, but here we are years later and it still smells like fish. If we were still doing paper ballots, ‘Small’ Trump would have never gotten as far as he did with his tall tale about the election being stolen from him. Both parties are to blame for all of the mess we’re in right now!

    “Also note that NPCR does not allow comments **”

    >Nope, and hardly does any corporation whose products we buy, not even our elected leaders who rely on us for their votes. They subject us to yes & no answers only in the feeds they send out to their constituents when they want donations or votes. We’re living in very dangerous times so far as our democracy is concerned.
    Newspapers are disappearing left and right…..this in itself is a ‘sign’ of things to come. And the “Fake news” rhetoric that got started just over four years ago is not helping matters…………….. If people could just be woke from their slumbers!

    Our forefathers 200 years ago saw how our democracy was threatened….even way back then! I’m surprised we made it this far! The way things have been going it’s only a matter of time where history will be repeating itself all over again…… and another empire collapses. How sad that it has come this far. Ignorance is why our ship is sinking. Think about that next time your favorite politician defunds public education, or public anything for that matter!

    • Boreas says:

      Charlie,

      I think the final straw for our “democracy” was allowing corporations, lobbyists, and other big-money players to be given free reign in our political system. It was only a matter of time before these forces steered us toward authoritarian rule, thus cementing their viability into the future. When our votes and representatives are effectively bought and paid for, there is no democracy – representative democracy or otherwise.

      • JB says:

        Bores & Charlie, your words are spot on: the contemporary American political system is indeed uniquely overcapitalized, and a few of our Founding Fathers did in fact warn of this very phenomenon.

        “John Adams thought that [classical] republican values had been replaced by venal concern for personal gain as early as the autumn of 1776. That some public servants were returning to their private careers and some workmen were taking advantage of the war-induced labor shortage to demand higher wages was, to Adams, evidence of corruption; this indicated to him that the idealism of the early stages of the struggle had been replaced by self-interest. Adams was also concerned with the increase in wealth that would come with rapid commercial expansion in the republic; he feared that such wealth would corrupt the republic by dividing the society into politically antagonistic classes.” (Hill, John E. Democracy, equality, and justice: John Adams, Adam Smith, and political economy. Lexington Books, 2007.)

        The legacy of unfettered resource-exploitation and unprecedented economic growth that is only possible in a postcolonial state has left deeply enmeshed beliefs that are indelibly impressed upon mass American culture; those beliefs continue to dominate political discourse in all parties. But–perhaps predictably–that philosophy of [classical] economic liberalism over civic integrity has not served us well since our establishment as an independent nation. Spurred by the Post-World War II economic boom and led by the United States, the “Great Expansion” of the latter half of the 20th century has indeed left global civilization on the precipice of an all-out collapse–crime waves, mass hysteria, ecological crises, economic crises, social instability–and the only thing that the warring factions of American society can seem to agree upon–the same old philosophy of economic self-interest (e.g., compare Hochul’s State of the State and the 2022 NY GOP agenda)–will not rescue us.

  5. Charlie Stehlin says:

    Dana says: “Shame the National Guard wasn’t present. Wonder why?”

    > This has been a very curious thing to me since it all began. How is it that those insurrectionist, or terrorists, got as far as they did before finally the troops came in? I already know the answer to this, and it’s a wonder I haven’t heard the first peep regards the same since January 6,2020 (or maybe it has been brought up but I haven’t heard as I am not glued to the news like everyone else is) …..because Donald Trump was in power is why. His whole four years was one big reign of dysfunction, and worse, and it stayed that way right to the very end. This was no coincidence that that terrorism on January 6 got as far as it did. It really surprised the hell out of me, and many others, that it went as far as it did. Very unusual! And look at all of the support that less-than-a-man still has! If this would have been done by liberals they’d be all over the place shouting out, ‘Terrorism’, ‘Insurrection’, ‘anti-patriotic’, ‘Extremist’………. Nope, we’re not getting that. They’re blowing it off as if it were a little party that got out of hand, even if the Vice President had his name on a noose outside of the Capitol building! It just blows my mind how far this has come, the denial, all of the sheet they are getting away with! And it can only be because, as I always say….ignorance, which the republicans evidently rely on when it comes to their base, or their constituents. What else can it be? Please do tell I’m all ears!

  6. Charlie Stehlin says:

    Balian the Cat says: “No amount of lying about these things makes them untrue.”

    The truth always comes out Balian! Truth will always prevail! Unfortunately too often it does not come out until way after the damage is done, way after the sleepers are put to their rest, to their sleep that braves a thousand years…..to the detriment of futurity.

  7. Charlie Stehlin says:

    Bill says: “As for Babbitt, she committed stupidity and paid the price.”

    Nothing less. This has been my thought since ground zero.

  8. Charlie Stehlin says:

    You are absolutely right Boreas! And who got “Citizens United” going? The Supreme Court’s decision (on the right, not left) allowing unlimited corporate spending on political issues? The same school of people who are playing down January 6. Math majors all of them, “division” their forte, conformists who can give a rats ass about this country. It’s all about them! Their rhetoric is empty and corrosive and we’re all going to pay a price.

    • Boreas says:

      Yeah, just check out the “conversation” above between Dana and JohnL. Divert attention from the facts of the event and create an alternate reality. Somehow a violent insurrection attacking the Capitol and threatening VP Pence et al, is on par with street riots. I don’t care for violence in any form, but I do believe another attack on Congress will be much more deadly, as both sides will likely have their “safeties” off and itchy trigger fingers.

  9. louis curth says:

    Don’t give up Charlie. Today there is a tiny ray of hope for all of us who would like our children and grandchildren to still have a democracy after the 2022 elections.

    Today, the Associated Press is reporting that South Dakota Republican Senator Mike Rounds has broken ranks with his gutless fellow Republicans and denounced Trump’s baseless election lies.

    “This isn’t new information”, Rounds said in his statement. “If we’re being honest, there was no evidence of widespread fraud that would have altered the results of the election.”

    Senator Rounds also states that “former Vice President Mike Pence acknowledged Joe Biden’s victory “and acted with integrity”, and then the senator admonishes his fellow Republicans by saying; “It’s time for the rest of us to do the same.” DO YOU HEAR THAT NORTH COUNTRY REPUBLICANS???

    We need you, our elected Republicans, to get up your Mo-Jo and get back to work for the people. You can start by telling Trump to go take a hike – but please, not in the Adirondacks.

  10. Bill says:

    I keep hearing about our democracy. “Safe for democracy” etc…Someone please point out the part of the united States Constitution with the word “democracy”.

    The united States form a Republic according to our founding document.

    • JB says:

      The term “democracy” is problematic. It has become synonymous with the warped modern conception of classical liberalism (which the global right is just as party to as the global left). In an economic-liberal, economic-determinist world, “democracy” has become synonymous with the larger economic ideology of capitalism. But the antithesis of that is not “socialism” or “communism” since those economic systems are, in a deeper sense, also merely a means towards the same liberal goal of maximizing individual liberty–i.e., economic power.

      “Democracy” sensu lato is certainly not “safe” in the sense that economic liberalism is not sustainable. First, socially, all systems of rule are likely to devolve into widening economic disparity and eventually towards feudalism. Second, as our industrial civilization hits the economic wall of planetary boundaries and drives itself into extreme scarcity, the feudalistic tendency will become increasingly apparent. As I see it, the ultimatum is not: either save our industrial society by saving democracy while restoring social equity and inventing our way out of the environmental crisis; or else allow industrial civilization to perish. More likely, if the republic will survive, it will take the form of a nobility living an industrial lifestyle and a serfdom living a quasi-preindustrial lifestyle. If not, we will have totalitarianism. All indications point that way, at least.

  11. louis curth says:

    Frequently Asked Questions About democracy:

    Is the United States a democracy or a republic?
    The United States is both a democracy and a republic. Democracies and republics are both forms of government in which supreme power resides in the citizens. The word republic refers specifically to a government in which those citizens elect representatives who govern according to the law. The word democracy can refer to this same kind of representational government, or it can refer instead to what is also called a direct democracy, in which the citizens themselves participate in the act of governing directly.

    What is the basic meaning of democracy?
    The word democracy most often refers to a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting.

    What is a democratic system of government?
    A democratic system of government is a form of government in which supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodic free elections.

    Source: Merriam Webster Dictionary

  12. Charlie Stehlin says:

    A ‘fundamental legal document’ which will continue to be twisted and tweaked to please the leadership of a party for their advantage at a disadvantage to the whole; whereas it should be about not that one party’s advantage but the advantage of the whole, ie… the citizenry, or voters, whom they are supposed to be obligated to but evidently do not matter to them!.

    • Boreas says:

      I agree Charlie. Currently, the Judiciary Branch of our government has the reigns, and that branch is pretty lopsided right now.

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